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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s the difference between marketing + advertising?</title>
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		<title>By: Erik Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Greg,

No, advertising is not all bad -- the way it gets implemented in many cases is bad, used in place of a proactive marketing strategy (i.e., I&#039;ve been advertising in the local paper/business journal/trade magazine for 5 months, why isn&#039;t my phone ringing?) Advertising on its own is not an integrated marketing strategy; it&#039;s usually best used as an overall awareness or brand builder. The problem is that a lot of entrepreneurs want to see it as a plug-and-play-pipeline builder and it usually is not.

And to clarify, I would never say &quot;don&#039;t advertise&quot; as an absolute. In fact, I usually tell most business owners to make it the last step in their plan, once they&#039;ve got the tools they need to attract and close warmer prospects. The other problem with advertising is that unless you&#039;re selling an impulse item (like the snuggie) -- and most of us in the B2B arena are not -- business owners just aren&#039;t prepared for the fact that when the phone does ring, they&#039;re still essentially dealing with a stone cold lead. You need to get your sales and marketing processes finely tuned to ensure you can close a good number of those opportunities when they arise. 

But I definitely stand by my original point here that advertising is not a strategy unto itself; it&#039;s a tactic that&#039;s used to further an overall marketing or business goal. And looking at the snuggie, let&#039;s remember also that they are running an ad campaign that is likely worth a few million dollars at least; they are using advertising very well, but few startups without significant funding would be able to replicate that. They have also backed up their TV strategies with what appears to be some solid PR and social media savvy so even an ad-focused marketing plan like theirs has a few other moving parts.

Thank you for the comment and for challenging me on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Greg,</p>
<p>No, advertising is not all bad &#8212; the way it gets implemented in many cases is bad, used in place of a proactive marketing strategy (i.e., I&#8217;ve been advertising in the local paper/business journal/trade magazine for 5 months, why isn&#8217;t my phone ringing?) Advertising on its own is not an integrated marketing strategy; it&#8217;s usually best used as an overall awareness or brand builder. The problem is that a lot of entrepreneurs want to see it as a plug-and-play-pipeline builder and it usually is not.</p>
<p>And to clarify, I would never say &#8220;don&#8217;t advertise&#8221; as an absolute. In fact, I usually tell most business owners to make it the last step in their plan, once they&#8217;ve got the tools they need to attract and close warmer prospects. The other problem with advertising is that unless you&#8217;re selling an impulse item (like the snuggie) &#8212; and most of us in the B2B arena are not &#8212; business owners just aren&#8217;t prepared for the fact that when the phone does ring, they&#8217;re still essentially dealing with a stone cold lead. You need to get your sales and marketing processes finely tuned to ensure you can close a good number of those opportunities when they arise. </p>
<p>But I definitely stand by my original point here that advertising is not a strategy unto itself; it&#8217;s a tactic that&#8217;s used to further an overall marketing or business goal. And looking at the snuggie, let&#8217;s remember also that they are running an ad campaign that is likely worth a few million dollars at least; they are using advertising very well, but few startups without significant funding would be able to replicate that. They have also backed up their TV strategies with what appears to be some solid PR and social media savvy so even an ad-focused marketing plan like theirs has a few other moving parts.</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment and for challenging me on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bond</title>
		<link>http://zerogcreative.com/archives/957/comment-page-1#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If advertising is a subset of marketing, than Marketing has to be both passive and active. Advertising isn&#039;t all bad, it&#039;s just that 99% of advertising is poorly executed. Once everyone is participating in online activites, social media, video, et al, the quality will go the same way as advertising. It is just that right now, everyone who is doing it, is invested in the mediums success.
 In any one moment, the majority of people who call themselves marketers are a joke. There is a reason accountants in college think marketing is a lame business major. Because it is subjective, it breeds sliminess. We look to people like you to clean that up, just don&#039;t diss on advertising. Advertising doesn&#039;t have to be passive. Just improve it like you do for marketing online. The snuggie is proof that advertising still works, even for a startup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If advertising is a subset of marketing, than Marketing has to be both passive and active. Advertising isn&#8217;t all bad, it&#8217;s just that 99% of advertising is poorly executed. Once everyone is participating in online activites, social media, video, et al, the quality will go the same way as advertising. It is just that right now, everyone who is doing it, is invested in the mediums success.<br />
 In any one moment, the majority of people who call themselves marketers are a joke. There is a reason accountants in college think marketing is a lame business major. Because it is subjective, it breeds sliminess. We look to people like you to clean that up, just don&#8217;t diss on advertising. Advertising doesn&#8217;t have to be passive. Just improve it like you do for marketing online. The snuggie is proof that advertising still works, even for a startup.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hanson</title>
		<link>http://zerogcreative.com/archives/957/comment-page-1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good writing.  Keep up the good work.  I just added your RSS feed my Google News Reader..

Matt Hanson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good writing.  Keep up the good work.  I just added your RSS feed my Google News Reader..</p>
<p>Matt Hanson</p>
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